While its not quite John Inverdale and Sir Steve Redgrave it could all start to get a little personal between the tipsters this week.
Four days of top-class action on the Knavesmire sees the last of the summer festivals before the ground gets softer, the jackets heavier and the sunshine fades quicker than a Liverpool fan’s early-season optimism.
But that’s at least three weeks away so for now Channel 4’s Mick Fitzgerald, big boss Paddy Power, horse whisperer Turftalk Tom and data warrior Brendan give us the skinny on the best bets for the TV ahead of day one at York.
There aren’t too many prizes for originality being handed out for the banker double selections (on paper at least) of Idaho & Postponed, but if one of the opening race handicappers click, you could see the track record threatened in the sprint to the champagne bar.